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		<title>Pol &#039;Thugs&#039; Think Twice in Age of Internet Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Voiles</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure that Andrew Sullivan "would be horrified" by the idea that he and Cindy Sheehan agree on anything, Jonathan Schwarz nonetheless quotes (A Tiny Revolution, 4/25/09) the Atlantic.com blogger's declaration of "love" for the Internet, because "can you imagine what those thugs would have gotten away with without it?" Sheehan's similar 2005 statement--"Thank God for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure that Andrew Sullivan "would be horrified" by the idea that he and Cindy Sheehan agree on anything, Jonathan Schwarz nonetheless quotes (<strong>A Tiny Revolution</strong>, <a href="http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002937.html" target="_blank">4/25/09</a>) the <strong>Atlantic.com</strong> blogger's <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/bybee-song-writer.html" target="_blank">declaration</a> of "love" for the Internet, because "can you imagine what those thugs would have gotten away with without it?" Sheehan's similar 2005 <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200508111811.asp" target="_blank">statement</a>--"Thank God for the Internet, or we wouldn't know anything, and we would already be a fascist state"--spurs Schwarz to celebrate the democratizing power of online media:<br />
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<blockquote><p>I'm not sure we'd be a fascist state without the beautiful, beautiful tubes. But the difference they've made is gigantic. Recall this story about Obama's decision to <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123990682923525977.html#mod=todays_us_page_one" target="_blank">release</a> the torture memos:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Obama wrestled with the decision into Wednesday night...</p>
<p>One key factor was the online <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22530" target="_blank">publication</a> last week by the <strong>New York Review of Books</strong> of an International Committee of the Red Cross account of detainee interrogations [penned by <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3758">Mark Danner</a>]. The president read the account and concluded "virtually everything that was in these memos was out in the public domain," said the senior official.</p></blockquote>
<p>Without the internet, would Obama have cared the Red Cross report had appeared in an ultra-egghead publication with a circulation of 140,000? Would he even have known? Likely no to both. As Donald Johnson <a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2009/04/by-hilzoyin-an-unprecedented-shocking-development-david-broder-is-against-any-sort-of-accountability-for-what-he-refers-to.html?cid=6a00d834515c2369e201156f5c1c92970c#comment-6a00d834515c2369e201156f5c1c92970c" target="_blank">commented</a> over at <strong>Obsidian Wings</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[T]he issue has come much further than I would have ever expected--if you'd asked me in 2001 if the U.S. would torture people in the war on terror I would have guessed we would, but I wouldn't have expected it to have ever reached the mainstream press, except maybe in scattered articles that wouldn't receive much notice.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Schwarz opines that, "in any case, there's no question the Internet will have a deeply chilling effect on the Cheneys of the future," imagining how "during every meeting in which they organize their criminal conspiracies, someone will say: 'What would this look like if it ends up online?'"</p>
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