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	<title>FAIR Blog &#187; Howard Kurtz</title>
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		<title>Fox&#039;s Phony Debates</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/10/27/foxs-phony-debates/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hart</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Criticism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Alan Colmes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bernie Goldberg]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bill O'Reilly]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fox News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Howard Kurtz]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Jane Hall]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Fox News Channel was developing Sean Hannity's TV show, it was known as Hannity &#38; Liberal To Be Determined. That liberal turned out to be Alan Colmes, who would eventually leave the gig after doing his part by playing the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters. It hardly mattered who sat in the "left" [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When <strong>Fox News Channel</strong> was developing Sean Hannity's TV show, it <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067">was known </a>as <span><strong>Hannity &amp; Liberal To Be Determined</strong>. That liberal turned out to be Alan Colmes, who would eventually leave the gig after doing his part by <a title="Extra!: An Aggressive Conservative Vs." href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1158" target="_self">playing the Washington Generals</a> to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters. It hardly mattered who sat in the "left" chair--they were there to get roughed up by the home team. </span></p>
<p><span>Until recently, professor Jane Hall was a regular guest on the <strong>O'Reilly Factor</strong>, debating conservative <a title="Extra!: Bias Short on Substance" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1100" target="_self">Bernie Goldberg</a>. She's left<strong> Fox</strong>, and as she explained to <strong>CNN</strong>'s Howard Kurtz (<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/25/rs.01.html">10/25/09</a>), she never considered herself a liberal anyway: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>KURTZ:</strong> When you appeared regularly on O'Reilly, were you there as a token from the dreaded MSM?</p>
<p><strong>HALL:</strong> Well, I was there as a defender of the MSM. And you wouldn't believe how many famous journalists I talked to, who said better you than me. Let me tell you my side of the story. They didn't want to come on. It is hard to do, because it was like, when did you quit beating your wife? That was usually the question. But I felt it was worth doing.</p>
<p><strong>KURTZ:</strong> Do you consider yourself a liberal?</p>
<p><strong>HALL:</strong> No.</p>
<p><strong>KURTZ:</strong> You were paired with Bernie Goldberg, the conservative point of view, who wrote a book about the media's slobbering love affair with Barack Obama?</p>
<p><strong>HALL:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong>KURTZ: </strong>So was that a fair pairing, to have someone who has that point of view, and you? You consider yourself a journalist.</p>
<p><strong>HALL:</strong> I consider myself a journalist. I'm now able to say opinions because I'm a professor. I consider myself a moderate. In that universe, I was probably considered a wacky professor by O'Reilly. He would sort of pat me on the head and say, now, Jane, I know you liberals feel this way. And I'd say, I'm not really a liberal. So, yes, there's not necessarily a left/right comparison on there.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Is Engel Too Opinionated--or Does He Have the Wrong Opinion?</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/10/13/is-engel-too-opinionated/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rendall</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[David McChrystal]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Howard Kurtz]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Lara Logan]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[When NBC chief foreign affairs correspondent Richard Engel recently returned from Afghanistan, he told MSNBC's Morning Joe, "I honestly think it's probably time to start leaving the country." Engel added, "I really don't see how this is going to end in anything but tears."
Engel's comments caused Washington Post media reporter Howard Kurtz (10/12/09) to raise [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When <strong>NBC</strong> chief foreign affairs correspondent Richard Engel recently returned from Afghanistan, he <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/11/AR2009101101761_pf.html">told</a> <strong>MSNBC</strong>'s <strong>Morning Joe</strong>, "I honestly think it's probably time to start leaving the country." Engel added, "I really don't see how this is going to end in anything but tears."</p>
<p>Engel's comments caused <strong>Washington Post</strong> media reporter Howard Kurtz (<a title="WaPo: Engel's War (2nd item)" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/11/AR2009101101761_pf.html">10/12/09</a>) to raise an eyebrow at a reporter stating an opinion: "That sounds awfully opinionated for a working reporter," wrote Kurtz.</p>
<p>But we had to wonder if what really attracted Kurtz's scrutiny was Engel's stating of an opinion, or the opinion itself?<br />
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<p>After all, for years FAIR has documented the phenomenon of journalists <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2842">stating opinions</a> <em>in support</em> of hawkish U.S. policies with virtual impunity--even when their views were<a href="http://www.fair.org/press-releases/iraq-weapons.html"> catastrophically in error</a>.</p>
<p>And so we wondered if Kurtz would even have commented if a network news reporter had suggested that the U.S. needed to<em> escalate</em> its military efforts in Afghanistan. We needn't have wondered.</p>
<p>Lara Logan, who holds the same position at <strong>CBS News</strong> as Engel does at <strong>NBC</strong>--chief foreign affairs correspondent--may be a more vehement cheerleader for escalation than Engel is for withdrawal. In a recent <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/08/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5372306.shtml">interview</a> with Bob Orr on <strong>CBS News</strong>' <strong>Political Hotsheet</strong>, Logan expressed a disturbing devotion to  Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan and chief proponent of escalating the war there: "I don't understand why no one will listen to the man you put your faith in and said he is the guy who is going to do this for us...."</p>
<p>Since Logan too "sounds awfully opinionated for a working reporter," we wonder how it is she escaped Kurtz's scrutiny?</p>
<p>For us, it isn't so much that journalists have and express opinions--the public is better served when we know what reporters are thinking--but we are troubled when  disapproval and despair over the lost standards of journalistic objectivity are trotted out only for reporters whose opinions are at odds with official views.</p>
<p>So we are glad to know of Logan's hero worship, even if it is at odds with the worthwhile  journalistic ethic that says reporters should hold the feet of the powerful to the fire--not massage them.<br />
<em>Corrected version: The original version of this post gave Stanley McChrystal's first name incorrectly.</em></p>
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		<title>Snarky WaPo-er &#039;Surprised by the Ferocity out There&#039;</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/08/07/snarky-wapo-er-surprised-by-the-ferocity-out-there/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Voiles</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Adam Serwer]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[American Prospect]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Chris Cillizza]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Dana Milbank]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Howard Kurtz recently offered fellow Washington Post reporters Dana Milbank and Chris Cillizza a chance to apologize for having, in an online Post feature, "implied Hillary Clinton was a 'bitch.'"
But American Prospect's Tapped blogger Adam Serwer (8/5/09) has a question regarding Milbank's aside that "it's a brutal world out there in the blogosphere.... I'm often [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Kurtz recently offered fellow <strong>Washington Post</strong> reporters <a href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/06/12/dana-milbanks-bubble-problem/">Dana Milbank</a> and <a title="see paragraph 11" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3098">Chris Cillizza</a> a chance to apologize for having, in an online <strong>Post</strong> feature, "<a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=07&amp;year=2009&amp;base_name=genderbeer_draft" target="_blank">implied</a> Hillary Clinton was a 'bitch.'"</p>
<p>But <strong>American Prospect</strong>'s <strong>Tapped</strong> blogger Adam Serwer (<a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=08&amp;year=2009&amp;base_name=cant_ball_dont_play#116146" target="_blank">8/5/09</a>) has a question regarding Milbank's <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/05/AR2009080502394.html" target="_blank">aside</a> that "it's a brutal world out there in the blogosphere.... I'm often surprised by the ferocity out there, but I probably shouldn't be":</p>
<blockquote><p>What's the sound of a million hands facepalming? No one who goes around using <a title="Think Progress: The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank calls Nico Pitney a ‘dick’ after heated debate on CNN" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/28/milbank-pitney/" target="_blank">obscenities</a> to describe other reporters and administration officials should be complaining about the "ferocity" of blogs--if Milbank is bothered by it, he might start by admitting his own complicity in creating that kind of discourse.</p></blockquote>
<p>Serwer's reiteration that "Milbank's unique place in the journalism world entails him making fun of people for a living" yields a simple maxim: "If you can't take it, don't <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/28/milbank-pitney/" target="_blank">dish it</a>."</p>
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		<title>Too Much Truth in Advertising at the WaPo?</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/07/02/too-much-truth-in-advertising-at-the-wapo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Naureckas</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Advertisers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Media Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Howard Kurtz]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Katharine Weymouth]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Marcus Brauchli]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The business department at the Washington Post has gotten into trouble in what may be a case of too much truth in advertising.
As reported by Politico (7/2/09), the Post circulated a flyer offering--for the low, low cost of $25,000--an "intimate and exclusive Washington Post salon, an off-the-record dinner and discussion at the home of CEO [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The business department at the <strong>Washington Post</strong> has gotten into trouble in what may be a case of too much truth in advertising.</p>
<p>As reported by <strong>Politico</strong> (<a title="Politico: WashPost offers off-rec access to admin figures, journos for lobbyists" href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/WashPost_offers_offrec_access_to_admin_figures_journos_for_lobbyists.html?showall">7/2/09</a>), the <strong>Post</strong> circulated a flyer offering--for the low, low cost of $25,000--an "intimate and exclusive<strong> Washington Post</strong> salon, an off-the-record dinner and discussion at the home of CEO and publisher Katharine Weymouth." The circular promised the participation of "key Obama administration and congressional leaders" as well as "healthcare reporting and editorial staff members of the <strong>Washington Post</strong>."</p>
<p>Lest anyone be confused as to why dinner at the <strong>Post</strong>'s publisher's house would be worth $25,000, the flyer helpfully points out that  "an evening with the right people can alter the debate." It calls the event "an exclusive opportunity to participate in the healthcare reform debate among the select few who will actually get it done." It's quite straightforward: The Post is offering to help a deep-pocketed customer an opportunity to alter the healthcare reform process by granting access to government officials and its own journalists.</p>
<p>Naturally, one is not allowed to be that honest about the relationship between money, power and journalism in Washington, D.C.  A <strong>Post</strong> spokesperson told <a title="Politico: WashPost offers off-rec access to admin figures, journos for lobbyists" href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/WashPost_offers_offrec_access_to_admin_figures_journos_for_lobbyists.html?showall" target="_blank"><strong>Politico</strong></a> that the advertisement was released "before it was properly vetted," and that the "draft does not represent what the company's vision for these dinners are, which is meant to be an independent, policy-oriented event for newsmakers." Boy, that doesn't sound as much like it's worth 25 grand, does it?</p>
<p><strong>Post</strong> publisher Katharine Weymouth then did an <a title="WaPo: Post Publisher Cancels Plans for Off-the-Record 'Salons'" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/02/AR2009070201563.html" target="_blank">interview</a> with employee Howard Kurtz in which she vowed they were "not going to do any dinners that would impugn the integrity of the newsroom." But she was aware "of the plans to host small dinners at her home and to charge lobbying and trade organizations for participation." And <strong>Post</strong> executive editor Marcus Brauchli said that "he had been involved in discussions, stretching back to last year, about newsroom participation in conferences"--but the good kind of conference, not the kind that makes you look like a sleazy influence-peddler.</p>
<p>So it looks like they're going to go ahead with these things--"We do believe there is an opportunity to have a conferences and events business, and that the <strong>Post</strong> should be leading these conversations," the <strong>Post</strong> statement to <strong>Politico</strong> said--but presumably next time they won't market them so nakedly as an exchange of money for power.  Don't worry, <strong>Post Co.</strong>, your clients will still know what they're buying.</p>
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		<title>Policing the Debate on Health Reform</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/06/26/policing-the-debate-on-health-reform/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Isabel Macdonald</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Criticism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ABC]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Barack Obama]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Gibson]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ABC's Diane Sawyer claimed (CNN, 6/22/09) the network's June 24 forum on President Barack Obama's healthcare plan would feature "questions from every single vantage point."
Yet, ignoring calls from FAIR (Action Alert, 6/22/09) and advocacy groups such as Health Care Now!, the special did not include a single question from an advocate of single-payer national health [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ABC</strong>'s Diane Sawyer claimed (<strong>CNN</strong>, <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/pressroom/2009/06/diane-sawyers-interview-with-howard-kurtz-on-cnns-reliable-sources.html">6/22/09</a>) the network's <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=7920012">June 24 forum</a> on President Barack Obama's healthcare plan would feature "questions from every single vantage point."</p>
<p>Yet, ignoring calls from FAIR (Action Alert, <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3816">6/22/09</a>) and advocacy groups such as <a href="http://www.healthcare-now.org/today-tell-abc-tv-to-put-single-payer-on-the-table/">Health Care Now!</a>, the special did not include a single question from an advocate of single-payer national health insurance—despite the fact that the single-payer option polls well with the public <span class="published-content-body">(<strong>New York Times</strong>/<span class="media_outlet">CBS</span>, <a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm" target="_blank">1/11-15/09</a>) </span>and is seen by many experts as the best way of expanding coverage to the uninsured while also controlling costs.</p>
<p>In the wake of well-publicized flak <strong>ABC</strong> received <a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/west_wing_reportage/rnc_blasts_abcs_healthcare_special_from_wh_glorified_infomercial__119119.asp">from the Republican Party</a> over the special, the Republicans' <a href="http://www.gop.com/News/NewsRead.aspx?Guid=06b09a3e-4904-4bb7-89f7-67751456f954">position</a> that Obama's plan amounted to a "government takeover of healthcare" was reflected in the questions selected by <strong>ABC</strong>. </p>
<p><strong>ABC</strong>'s Charles Gibson asked Obama directly to respond to Republican criticism. Meanwhile, one of <strong>ABC</strong>'s hand-selected questioners said he was concerned with "the big brother fear," asking, "How far is government going to go in reference to my personal life and healthcare treatments?" Another questioner, identified as an M.D., said he was "concerned" with "the government taking over healthcare."</p>
<p>The insurance industry's perspective was also well-represented in the forum, with <strong>ABC</strong> medical editor Timothy Johnson citing "critics" who say Obama's plan "would eventually put private insurers out of business." <strong>ABC</strong> also featured a question to Obama from the CEO of the major insurance company Aetna, as well as the head of the Lewin Group--<a href="http://www.healthjournalism.org/blog/2009/04/lewin-group-linked-to-private-insurers/">which is owned by another major health insurance company</a>, the United Healthcare Group.</p>
<p>(Four medical practitioners, the president of the American Medical Association, two family members of patients, a former government health official, two human resources managers and a small business owner were also selected by <strong>ABC</strong> to ask questions to the president.)</p>
<p>David Westin, president of <strong>ABC</strong>, had defended <strong>ABC</strong>'s selection of guests for the forum, <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/24/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5109946.shtml">saying</a>, "We will include a variety of perspectives coming from private individuals asking the president questions and taking issue with him, as they see fit." Just days before the forum, Sawyer stated on <strong>CNN</strong> (<strong>Reliable Sources</strong>, 6/22/09) that it was going to be "a room full of widely diverse ideas in which people who actually experience the reality of front-line healthcare are going to get a chance to pose their challenging questions to the president."</p>
<p>Yet the issue of single-payer was never raised by either the <strong>ABC</strong> interviewers or <strong>ABC</strong>'s hand-selected guests, despite the fact that it is popular, and favored by 59 percent of physicians, according to recent peer-reviewed survey (<strong>Annals of Internal Medicine</strong>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18378959">4/1/08</a>). And despite the fact that even Obama's own doctor <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/18/obama-doctor-knocks-obamacare-business-healthcare-obamas-doctor.html">has criticized</a> the government's plan in favor of a single-payer system.</p>
<p>In the entire <strong>ABC</strong> healthcare special, the single-payer option was only once mentioned, and dismissively, by Obama himself, in response to Republican charges that his healthcare proposal is a "Trojan horse" for "socialized medicine."</p>
<p>Yet, tellingly, for the corporate media's most influential media critic--<strong>Washington Post </strong>columnist Howard Kurtz-– the main concern vis a vis the <strong>ABC</strong> forum was not the silencing of a popular reform proposal. Rather, it was the question of whether health insurance companies and other industry perspectives would be sufficiently represented in the forum.</p>
<p>In a segment on the <strong>ABC</strong> healthcare forum on <strong>CNN</strong>’s <strong>Reliable Sources</strong>, Kurtz stated to Sawyer:</p>
<blockquote><p>You have the ultimate guest for this special, the president. Why not also include guests from the insurance industry, the hospital industry, the drug companies who also have a stake in this health care battle?</p></blockquote>
<p>It would be a surprise to many Americans that they do not, in Kurtz's view, have a stake in healthcare reform.</p>
<p>But then again, corporate media's <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3793">longstanding blackout on the single-payer option</a> shows that corporate journalists have long seen the views of citizens as unimportant to the healthcare debate.</p>
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		<title>Google, the Journalism-Killing Vacuum</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/05/11/google-the-journalism-killing-vacuum/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We've written about this before, but today (5/11/09) the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz turned in another example of journalists who seem to believe Google is what's killing their industry. Responding to talks between his employer and Google about some sort of collaboration, Kurtz writes:
Hanging over the talks is the reality that the search giant, while funneling vital [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We've written about <a href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/05/07/dana-milbank-stamps-his-foot-at-the-unfairness-of-google/">this</a> <a href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/04/15/if-google-is-handing-out-free-money-newspapers-would-like-some/">before</a>, but today (5/11/09) the <strong>Washington Post</strong>'s Howard Kurtz <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/10/AR2009051002044_pf.html">turned in</a> another example of journalists who seem to believe <strong>Google</strong> is what's killing their industry. Responding to talks between his employer and <strong>Google</strong> about some sort of collaboration, Kurtz writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hanging over the talks is the reality that the search giant, while funneling vital traffic to news sites, vacuums up their content without paying a dime.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm not sure what it is that <strong>Google</strong> is accused of "vacuuming." Kurtz is likely referring to <strong>Google News</strong>, which lets users search many media outlets at once. The main <strong>Google News</strong> page features the headlines of what the search engine determines to be popular stories, sometimes with the first sentence or so of the accompanying article. Anyone who wants to read the full article can follow a link to the news site itself.</p>
<p>By way of analogy, for years most daily newspapers--including the <strong>Washington Post</strong>--have include a page of TV listings, giving the titles and air times of programs one might want to watch. Sometimes they go further and offer a plot summary; other times the paper will tell me that a given movie is terrible. Does all of this amount to stealing from the TV stations, since the newspaper profits from the ads it sells next to these listings? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure how what <strong>Google</strong> does is all that different.</p>
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