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		<title>Newsweek Continues Wrestling With Aggregators</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/09/10/newsweek-continues-wrestling-with-aggregator/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Naureckas</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Daniel Lyons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Drudge Report]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Google]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Mark Cuban]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Under the charming headline "Eliminate the Parasites," Newsweek's Daniel Lyons (9/12/09) advances another brilliant scheme to save corporate media from the menace of Google.
Lyons likes the idea put forward by billionaire Ayn Rand fan Mark Cuban:
Cuban's advice: declare war on the "aggregator" Web sites that get a free ride on content. These aggregators--sites like Drudge [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under the charming headline "Eliminate the Parasites," <strong>Newsweek</strong>'s Daniel Lyons (<a title="Newsweek: Eliminate the Parasites" href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/214832" target="_blank">9/12/09</a>) advances <a title="FAIR Blog: Someone (Who Could Have Been a Justice) Is Wrong on the Internet" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/06/30/someone-who-could-have-been-a-justice-is-wrong-on-the-internet/" target="_blank">another</a> <a title="FAIR Blog: WaPo Argues: Censor Blog for Sending Us Readers" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/08/05/wapo-argues-censor-blog-for-sending-us-readers/" target="_self">brilliant</a> <a title="FAIR Blog: On Google, HuffPo and the Business of Conveying Information" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/07/17/on-google-huffpo-and-the-business-of-conveying-information/" target="_self">scheme</a> to save corporate media from the <a title="FAIR Blog: The First Thing We Do, Let's Kill All the Search Engines" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/05/19/the-first-thing-we-do-lets-kill-all-the-search-engines/" target="_self">menace</a> of <a title="FAIR Blog: Google, the Journalism-Killing Vacuum" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/05/11/google-the-journalism-killing-vacuum/" target="_self"><strong>Google</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Lyons likes the idea put forward by billionaire <a title="Slate: Your First Literary Crush" href="http://www.slate.com/id/2130198/" target="_blank">Ayn Rand fan</a> Mark Cuban:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cuban's advice: declare war on the "aggregator" Web sites that get a free ride on content. These aggregators--sites like <strong>Drudge Report</strong>, <strong>Newser</strong> and countless others--don't create much original material. They mostly just synopsize stuff from mainstream newspapers and magazines, and provide a link to the original....</p>
<p>He says the media companies should kill off these parasites by using a little piece of software that blocks incoming links from aggregators. If the aggregators can't link to other people's stories, they die. With a few lines of code, the old-media guys could snuff them out.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great idea--except that aggregator sites don't actually have to link to the original articles--they could just synopsize the news they find and leave searching for the original article as an exercise for the reader.  As Cuban himself notes, "very few readers actually click through to the original story," so they can't be the main attraction of the aggregators. Apparently, people go to them because they are a quick way to learn the news of the day--and they're going to keep being that, unless you make it a crime to tell people what the news is. I don't think we want to do that.</p>
<p>The links are mainly there as a courtesy to the content-producer, and they ought to appreciate that courtesy, because more important than the traffic that such links generate directly (though this can be quite attractive, as evidenced by outlets' relentless pursuit of <strong>Drudge</strong> links) is the fact that they boost your search-engine visibility, particularly on <strong>Google</strong>. If you stopped people from linking to you, you'd be basically invisible online. And this would be good for corporate media how?</p>
<p>Rather than coming up with a scheme for how to get back at <strong>Google</strong>, <strong>Huffington Post</strong> or whomever, corporate media would be better off thinking about <em>why</em> people use aggregator sites. When people are looking for a roundup of all the news in the world, why don't they turn to a newspaper?  And when they do click on your sites, why doesn't that make you more money? Corporate media is, after all, the business of selling audiences to advertisers--if they can't do that as well as <strong>Google</strong> does, then they just aren't very good at their jobs.</p>
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		<title>NY Post Steals From, Refuses to Credit Bloggers</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/09/05/ny-post-steals-from-refuses-to-credit-bloggers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Voiles</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Alex Ginsberg]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[blogging]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Google]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet journalism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Miss Heather]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[New York Post]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Nieman Foundation]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[thatgreenpointblog]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Zachary M. Seward]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[In looking at "all the angst over online appropriation of newspapers' work," Nieman Foundation blogger Zachary M. Seward (Nieman Journalism Lab, 9/4/09) thinks that "information actually flows in all directions, right?"
As "blog posts inspire newspaper articles, newspapers lift from other newspapers, and radio stations do the rip-and-read," Seward writes that "when a blogger uncovered a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In looking at "all the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/31/AR2009073102476.html" target="_blank">angst</a> over online appropriation of newspapers' work," Nieman Foundation blogger Zachary M. Seward (<strong>Nieman Journalism Lab</strong>, <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/09/new-york-post-prohibits-crediting-blogs-for-scoops/" target="_blank">9/4/09</a>) thinks that "information actually flows in all directions, right?"</p>
<p>As "blog posts <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html" target="_blank">inspire</a> newspaper articles, newspapers <a href="http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/hc-courant-apology-plagiarism-090309,0,1524843.story" target="_blank">lift</a> from other newspapers, and radio stations do the <a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117989178.html?categoryId=1682&amp;cs=1" target="_blank">rip-and-read</a>," Seward writes that "when a blogger <a href="http://www.newyorkshitty.com/?p=24054" target="_blank">uncovered</a> a major zoning violation in her Brooklyn neighborhood last month, it was only natural that the <strong>New York Post</strong> would <a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/08312009/news/regionalnews/gym_rat_back_in_biz_187315.htm" target="_blank">pick up</a> the story":</p>
<blockquote><p>But <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2009/08/newspaper-editors-want-clear-credit-when-bloggers-link-to-them240.html" target="_blank">credit</a> the blogger? That would be a violation of policy.<br />
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The <strong>Post</strong> prohibits crediting blogs and other competitors for scoops, <a href="http://www.newyorkshitty.com/?p=24642" target="_blank">according to</a> the reporter, Alex Ginsberg, who noted the zoning violation two weeks after it was reported by the blogger, who <a href="http://www.newyorkshitty.com/?page_id=2" target="_blank">calls</a> herself Miss Heather. "<strong>Post</strong> policy prevented me from crediting you in print," Ginsberg <a href="http://www.newyorkshitty.com/?p=24563#comment-16022" target="_blank">wrote</a> in a gracious comment on the blog. "Allow me to do so now. You did a fantastic reporting job. All I had to do was follow your steps (and make a few extra phone calls)."</p>
<p>The policy may have more to do with the <strong>Post</strong>'s rival, the <strong>Daily News</strong>, than with blogs, but it appears to apply across the board. In an <a href="http://www.newyorkshitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/email.jpg" target="_blank">email</a> to Miss Heather, Ginsberg wrote, "The rule is this: If every detail, fact and quote can be independently verified, then we don’t have to credit anyone."</p></blockquote>
<p>Seward finds it "hard, of course, to defend this rule on journalistic grounds," particularly when "<strong>News Corp</strong>., which publishes the <strong>Post</strong>, has <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7988561.stm" target="_blank">described</a> the way <strong>Google</strong> handles its content as parasitic. How would the company describe relying on someone else's work without credit?"</p>
<p>Read FAIR's magazine <strong>Extra!:</strong> "Did Google Kill the Newspaper Star?" by Peter Hart (<a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3829">7/09</a>).</p>
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		<title>On Google, HuffPo and the Business of Conveying Information</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/07/17/on-google-huffpo-and-the-business-of-conveying-information/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Naureckas</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Business]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Google]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Peter Osnos]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sports Illustrated]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I give Peter Osnos credit for not being as nutty as Richard Posner or as self-pitying as Dana Milbank; his piece from CJR on "What’s a Fair Share In the Age of Google?" (7-8/09) is the most reasonable version I've seen of the news industry's case against the search engine company. Still, I can't help [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give Peter Osnos credit for not being as <a title="FAIR Blog: Someone (Who Could Have Been a Justice) Is Wrong on the Internet" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/06/30/someone-who-could-have-been-a-justice-is-wrong-on-the-internet/" target="_self">nutty</a> as Richard Posner or as <a title="FAIR Blog: Dana Milbank Stamps His Foot at the Unfairness of Google" href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/05/07/dana-milbank-stamps-his-foot-at-the-unfairness-of-google/" target="_self">self-pitying</a> as Dana Milbank; his piece from <strong>CJR</strong> on "What’s a Fair Share In the Age of <strong>Google</strong>?" (<a title="CJR: What’s a Fair Share In the Age of Google?" href="http://www.cjr.org/feature/whats_a_fair_share_in_the_age.php?page=all" target="_blank">7-8/09</a>) is the most reasonable version I've seen of the news industry's case against the search engine company. Still, I can't help but think that he's missing the point in a fundamental way.</p>
<p>One of Osnos' key examples of the unfairness of <strong>Google</strong> involves <strong>Sports Illustrated</strong>'s website, <strong>SI.com</strong>, and a story it ran (<a title="SI.com: Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003" href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/" target="_blank">2/7/09</a>) on pitcher Alex Rodriguez testing positive for steroids. Osnos relates <strong>SI.com</strong>'s grievance: Though it broke the story, other websites got as much or more traffic from it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Most galling was that the <strong>Huffington Post</strong>'s use of an <strong>Associated Press</strong> version of <strong>SI</strong>'s report was initially tops on <strong>Google</strong>, which meant that it, and not <strong>SI.com</strong>, tended to be the place readers clicking through to get the gist of the breaking scandal would land.</p></blockquote>
<p>From a journalist's perspective, this is patently unfair: <strong>SI.com</strong> got the scoop, and ought to get the reward. But is that the right perspective to look at what <strong>Google</strong> does?  Journalists are not, after all, in the business of creating information; they're in the business of conveying information.  <strong>Sports Illustrated</strong>'s reporters did not create Rodriguez's failing steroid test results; Major League Baseball did that. People with access to the test information passed it on to <strong>SI</strong>, and <strong>SI</strong> put it up on the Web.</p>
<p>But that's not where the process of information transmission stops. People can't check every website that might break a news story of interest to them every day, so they rely on news gathering institutions to bring information together for them--that's what newspapers do, that's what <strong>AP</strong> does, and, yes, that's what <strong>Huffington Post</strong> does too.</p>
<p>Osnos attributes the <strong>Google</strong> results to the fact that "<strong>Huffington</strong> is effective at implementing search optimization techniques, which means that its manipulation of keywords, search terms, and the dynamics of Web protocol give it an advantage over others scrambling to be the place readers are sent by search engines." And it may well be that the folks at <strong>HuffPo</strong> are better at that stuff than <strong>SI</strong> is--though you'd think with the $84 billion entity of <strong>Time Warner</strong> behind them, the sports mag could afford to figure it out.</p>
<p>More important for <strong>HuffPo</strong>'s search results, however, is the fact that people who use the Web have gotten used to looking for breaking news there, and so when they link to a story they find interesting they link to it there. <strong>Google</strong>'s methodology, looking for links as a surrogate for how people use the Web, finds more of them going to <strong>Huffington Post</strong> than to <strong>SI.com</strong>--and that's why <strong>HuffPo</strong> came out on top.</p>
<p>Osnos says that "human help" needs to be incorporated into <strong>Google</strong>'s algorithm--given that the search engine last year <a title="Google Blog: We knew the web was big..." href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/we-knew-web-was-big.html" target="_blank">announced</a> that it had indexed more than 1 trillion urls, this suggestion would seem to be rather impractical. But it's not clear that the human-free algorithm is making the wrong choice by directing Web surfers to the sites people most often go to when looking for information.</p>
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		<title>Who Actually Clicks on Those Pesky Links Anyway?</title>
		<link>http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/07/07/who-actually-clicks-on-those-pesky-links-anyway/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Voiles</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Media Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bloggasm]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[copyright]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Google]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Richard Posner]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Simon Owens]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Considering how, "in recent months, news aggregators like the Huffington Post have received heated criticism from some who believe they’re stealing valuable traffic and ad revenue from newspapers," with even "appeals court Judge Richard Posner recently wr[iting] a widely-linked post arguing that copyright law should be changed in order to bar linking to websites and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering how, "in recent months, news aggregators like the <strong>Huffington Post</strong> have received heated criticism from some who believe they’re stealing valuable traffic and ad revenue from newspapers," with even "appeals court Judge Richard Posner recently wr[iting] a widely-linked post <a href="http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/06/30/someone-who-could-have-been-a-justice-is-wrong-on-the-internet/">arguing</a> that copyright law should be changed in order to bar linking to websites and paraphrasing their content," media blogger Simon Owens (<strong>Bloggasm.com</strong>, <a href="http://bloggasm.com/how-much-traffic-will-a-prominent-link-on-huffington-post-bring" target="_blank">7/6/09</a>) has conducted an experiment to evaluate the premise of corporate media management "that news aggregators simply repackage news so there’s little incentive to click on the actual link":</p>
<blockquote><p>So how much traffic does a large news aggregator like <strong>Huffington Post</strong> bring? I’ve been linked several times within <strong>Huffington Post</strong>, but typically on its users blogs, which only send a few hundred readers at most. But on early Friday I was fortunate enough to be <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/npr-ombudsman-refuses-to-_n_225399.html" target="_blank">featured prominently</a> on <strong>Huffington Post</strong>’s front page with a banner headline linking to one of my articles.</p>
<p>How much traffic did this link bring? Lots. For the first three hours I received approximately 4,000 unique visitors an hour to just that one article. Traffic for the rest of the day remained strong, not once dipping below 2,000 uniques an hour as the link began traveling down the front page. By midnight that night, <strong>Huffington Post</strong> had sent approximately 30,000 unique visitors to that one article.<br />
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But though the first day’s worth of traffic was the heaviest, the <strong>Huffington Post</strong> continued to send me strong traffic for two more days as the link moved down on its main page but remained prominent on its highly-trafficked Politics page.</p></blockquote>
<p>"All together," Owens tells us, he "received a <a href="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d20/simonthedude/huffingtonpost-2.jpg" target="_blank">grand total</a> of 37,739 unique visitors from a prominent link on the <strong>Huffington Post</strong> over a three day period," while days later "still seeing relatively strong traffic from there"--which all sounds like decidedly good news for linked-to big media outlets, <a title="Extra!: Did Google Kill the Newspaper Star?" href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3829">doesn't it</a>?</p>
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