Time’s Alex Perry, the magazine’s Africa bureau chief, responded in the FAIR Blog comments section to FAIR’s Julie Hollar, who recently (FAIR Blog, 6/25/10) criticized Perry for neglecting to mention the U.S. and Belgium’s role in propping up the Mobutu regime in Congo.
Perry said:
The idea that the U.S. created Mobutu and maintained him in power belittles Africans and is typical of the kind of racism that dogs analysis of Africa from commentators and journalists who get as close to Africa as, er, America, like old Julie here. The U.S. did not create Mobutu. They certainly did support him. Equally, by backing Rwandan President Paul Kagame, they also helped overthrow him. The crucial dynamic here is support. Africans have been the main players in Africa since independence, and while outside powers have influence, that is all it is—influence and support….
As for this lame idea that I, and the “mainstream media,” are part of some giant conspiracy to lie, cover up, dissemble etc. in the name of, I imagine, the “military industrial complex” or perhaps the CIA, what do you think happens here? Do you think I have a controller with a husky voice who directs my coverage by meeting me in badly lit subterranean car parks? Grow up. People who do my job die sometimes. I’ve known three myself. Do you really think we’d take those risk to tell lies? Your cheap and half-arsed conspiracies are insulting and infantile. I challenge any one of you—just one—to actually go and do some reporting in Congo, and then come back to me. Until then, your comments are pretty worthless.
Hollar responded to Perry’s comments:
Alex, were you in Africa when Lumumba was assassinated? One’s physical location and experience obviously do not determine one’s ability to speak with authority on historical events. I have in fact been to Africa, more than once. Assumptions make for sloppy arguments, as well as sloppy journalism.
Highlighting the U.S. and Belgian roles in Lumumba’s overthrow and assassination and Mobutu’s ascension is hardly racist, and pointing out your failure to do so is hardly conspiratorial. It doesn’t take the CIA to produce bad coverage, it just takes a reporter who believes it’s perfectly legitimate to write about “what’s wrong with Africa” (specifically the “sucking vortex” that is Congo) without acknowledging the extraordinary Western role.
After Perry criticized Hollar for not contacting him for a “right of reply” to her post and saying that Hollar doesn’t do journalism, which requires “actual reporting and travel,” Extra! editor Jim Naureckas jumped into the fray, writing:
Alex, you misunderstand what we do here. We’re not reporters covering the Congo; we’re critics reviewing the work of journalists like you. If a writer for Time wrote a negative book review without calling the author to get a response, would that be a firing offense? If so, your magazine has a very odd ethical code.
As for a right of response—aren’t you taking full advantage of it? Though I must say you could have made better use of it than complaining about the “invective” of a blog post while throwing around words like “racist” and “libelous.” Julie’s post was factually accurate—unlike your response, which accused her of never having been to Africa. When she noted that was wrong—not to claim any special expertise in the region, but to point out that you were making false assumptions—instead of apologizing, you come up with fresh insults. If you’re trying to make a point about the superior ethics of corporate journalists, I suggest that you’re headed in the wrong direction.
Here’s one more response from Perry:
And as for right of response—yeah, I’m calling you out now. Julie’s piece was a shameless and crass piece of cant, and if she can’t stand the heat, maybe she should exit a kitchen she seems to have wandered into by mistake. The bigger point is, as you know full well, you’re supposed to give me a right of reply at the time, in the piece. It’s only by chance that I came across Julie’s piece. I give that chance to everyone I report on by contacting them, even if it’s for a review. Not that odd at all, not that you apparently know that.
Finally, Julie’s piece was not factually accurate. Congo did give the world Mobutu. He was Congolese. He came from Congo. He ruled it for 32 years. To suggest he was formed, shaped, maintained and only ever a puppet of the U.S. is a gross inaccuracy, and, as I say, a racist one: prejudiced against Africans for assuming they never control their own destiny, prejudiced against the U.S., for assuming it’s always some shadowy bad guy.
You can read the full discussion between Perry, the FAIR staff and other commenters here.
Is this guy for real? He sounds far more “infantile” in his reactionary tantrum than either of the Fair staff members.
I’ve heard this “Africans controle Africa!” mantra before. But that doesn’t always seem to be the case since Europeans raped and pillaged the continent for centuries (read “King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa” by Adam Hochschild). Even apartheid in South Africa only ended a decade and a half ago (officially, anyway).
It is everyone’s dream to control their own destiny, but it’s not a dream everyone can live.
Again, I think Alex Perry sounds like a big baby in his silly response. What kind of journalist write “if you can’t stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!”? Julie Hollar (Hollar!) has obviously struck a very raw nerve. To hit back at Mr. Perry with one of the playground taunts he’s clearly so fond of, I guess the truth hurts, doesn’t it?
Or, as a flaming queen I once knew would surely say about his overreaction, “Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.”
Mr. Perry did not comport himself well in that exchange, and it’s pretty astonishing how quickly that little “discussion” went off the rails. The vitriol coming from Mr. Perry right off the bat did not really help matters, though he had a point (perhaps poorly expressed) that referring to Mobutu as a “gift [that] belongs to the U.S. and Belgium,” as Ms. Hollar did, is too reductive. Like most political phenomena, the rise of Mobutu (and his ability to hold power) is quite complex, of course. Certainly he was a product not only of “Western” interventionism, but also of Congolese society and history, which I doubt Ms. Hollar would deny. (There is also a real problem with emphasizing the near omnipotence of Western powers like the U.S. to the point where it robs the people of the so-called “Third World” of agency, but I hardly think the original FAIR piece was an example of that.)
The point Ms. Hollar was making, which could have been expressed a bit better, is that it’s also undoubtedly true that Mobutu WAS helped to power in part by the United States. No serious observer can deny that, and I doubt Mr. Perry would, though he refused to admit it either. FAIR’s basic point (“this is really basic background information about the Congo that is all too often left out in these kind of stories, and Perry erred by not including it”) likely should have been toned down somewhat, but Mr. Perry should have been more gracious (and far less thin-skinned) in his replies. He certainly should have admitted that the role(s) of the United States and Belgium are critical to understanding the fall of Lumumba and the rise of Mobutu–it’s hardly a controversial point, but it is something of which many readers of Time are likely unaware. This failure speaks to a general failure of many publications to provide sufficient historical context in their stories.
In the end I’m not even sure those arguing in the previous comments section would disagree all that much about the basic history of Mobutu’s rise, which is rather ironic.
Perry’s original article (unscrupulous China is taking advantage of the West’s softness to grab resources in Africa) is perfectly complemented by his content-free, abusive, self-important responses (I live in Africa and you are infantile). Both assume the inherent superiority of the home team (the West, the US, or himself) over the opponents (China, his critics). Perry has very little use for data or for systematic analysis, because the truth he offers is self-evident. Only cheap, half-arsed conspiracy-mongers would doubt it.
Perry has distilled the establishment’s view of the world and establishment’s media’s view of the world.
Mobutu was guest at the White House many times, hosted by at least three presidents. America’s relationship with Mobutu is best taken together with relationships with other dictators. And with, for example, The School of the Americas, a counter-insurgency, torture school. All that can be considered together with the doctrine, American from the beginning, that expansion of territory and of influence are essential to the protection of “our freedoms” and “our raw materials” wherever they may be. As part of such expansion, local objections, and outright oppostition were to be overcome by any means necessary.
Ad hominems and rhetorical devices. Impressive.
I have to admit that I got a kick out of Mr. Perry Googling himself and happening upon this. Sorry to bump your bubble, Master Perry.
Mr. Perry’s ad hominem rant notwithstanding, I think it’s a good thing to have a bit of dialogue with those whose reporting is criticized. Maybe there should be some notice given.
> Mr. Perry’s ad hominem rant notwithstanding, I think it’s a good thing to have a bit of dialogue with those whose reporting is criticized. Maybe there should be some notice given.
Giving notice and inviting to respond in the comments section is a good idea.
I have just started reading FAIR recently. I like the emphasis on media bias, and was particularly thrilled to see a representative of the mainstream press get involved in the fray here. But having just read the Time piece, it seems this firestorm of comments is neglecting the main topic of Perry’s article which is the growing Chinese presence in Africa. Granted, he does not explain the backdrop to Mobutu’s accession to power, or his connection to US interests. Instead he says the Congo “gave” him to the world, which I suppose is a vague statement. But I disagree with Sortition that the thrust of the story is about the “Unscrupulous” Chinese grabbing resources. What I see Perry saying is that the Chinese are a force to be reckoned with on that continent, and that some of their ways of doing business are very attractive to African governments. I didn’t like his imperious attitudes towards Ms. Hollar and others here, but I assume his lengthy time in Africa makes him feel he has a vastly superior understanding of the massive, complex forces at work there. As always with someone of his status, pragmatism, even cynicism are the dominant considerations. That is why he regards principled criticism of his work as infantile and even cultish. The same could be said of any major media mouthpiece–they just aren’t used to people bashing them from a historical, philosophical, or even ethical perspective.
This sure ended up being a surprising thing. I’m really happy with what I see here (as far as FAIR’s effort) and I will probably keep this particular instance in mind when the fundraising drive comes around.
What is written in any popular, mass-distributed magazine will undoubtedly find its way into conversations and then slowly become closer to canon, somewhere, even if not everywhere. The spread of cardboard diorama explanations of complex international phenomena isn’t necessary, but it is easy — and sometimes can be done without dispute. I am applauding this organization for bringing a dispute to the table and clearly touching a nerve!
The Chinese have a far better record than the US in Africa and many other places. The problem is that the near omnipotence of Western powers rob the people of the “Third World” of agency, not that some describe this accurately. The quotes from the IMF are a riot. Anything that makes that gang of criminals unhappy – like the Chinese coming in, has to be good. The business of the IMF is to make deserts and call it “macroeconomic stability.”
Unless you come to America, you have no standing to challenge my assertion that the United States was founded by a cheese sandwich in 1912. Similarly, someone who has never had cancer could not possibly have anything to contribute to oncology.
Unfortunately, Perry’s response has a familiar ring to it. It seems that a lot of mainstream reporters and pundits have this bedrock belief that outlets like FAIR, bloggers, non-mainstream commentators, and commenters on blogs are somehow beneath the mainstream reporters/pundits. So when they respond to criticism such as this, there seems to be this underlying notion of “How dare YOU criticize ME.”
It really is amazing to see this aristocratic attitude. If only Perry had calmed down, not taken the attitude that being criticized and argued with by FAIR and the commenters was a personal affront, and engaged the critics on substance, rather than essentially making the argument “You’re stupid and I’m smart, you know nothing and I know everything,” there might have been a real productive discussion and outcome. Unfortunately, the apparent outcome is Alex Perry now seems to think FAIR is evil and everyone else thinks he’s just an arrogant jerk.
Being caught smugly selling a false history of West Africa in an international magazine, then doubling down by blaming the purported racisim or unprofessionalism of a more observant and harder working critic, is not professional, it’s not ethical, and it’s not journalism. The hatemongering is Mr. Perry’s and it is directed at FAIR as well as the Congo.
Attempting to write about the present-day Democratic Republic of the Congo without acknowledging Belgium’s exceptionally brutal colonial rule – and post-colonial involvement – is dishonest. A ten-second “internets” search discovered two examples that might start Mr. Perry on the road to being an informed journalist:
A 9 March 2005 article from the BBC about a hugely popular exhibition in Brussels about:
“Belgians are finally learning the unvarnished truth about the brutalities of their colonial past – and they are queuing up to find out more.”
A 17 November 2001 article in Britain’s Independent newspaper about Brussel’s acknowledgment of its direct role in the assassination of Patrice Lumumba:
“Forty years after the unsolved murder of Africa’s most promising post-independence leader, Belgium has owned up to its role in an assassination which became a symbol of colonial wrongdoing….
“Even as the government in Brussels insisted that Lumumba was alive and well, a Belgian police commissioner named Gerard Soete cut up the body and dissolved it in acid, keeping two teeth as a grisly souvenir. Yesterday’s report was produced by a unique inquiry, which opened the Belgian royal family’s archives and its security services, and raided the homes of some key players who are still alive.”
Similar information could be found about the US’s role in the Congo then and now. The “sucking vortex” one ought to worry about is the swirling created by journalists like Mr. Perry, who invent fiction and sell it as fact.
The Chinese are certainly effective in displacing Western economic interests in Africa. They have lots of money, lots of rentable workers, and strike better deals with less hypocrisy. That’s not to say they are out to improve the lot of Africans or encourage sustainable harvesting of scarce resources. They are out to strike deals to obtain resources they need at better prices and on better terms than their smug competitors.
Mr. Perry’s claim that Africans control their own destiny and to argue otherwise is “racist” is either hopelessly naive or outright Rovian.
Colonial powers spend enormous resources concocting ways to foist cooperative leaders onto their people and to deposing uncooperative ones. Mr. Gandhi was Indian, Mr. Castro was Cuban, the series of Vietnamese leaders the US propped up or “allowed to fail” in the 1960’s were all Vietnamese, and Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi. Arguing that Britain or the US played no role in their rise or fall would not be racist; it would be painfully ignorant.
I suggest that the overanxious Mr. Perry take a break and expand his reading list; he might try a little Graham Greene or Art Buchwald. For lighter reading, he might try the annals of Operation Condor.
Holy, jeebus cripes! The US role in promoting and sustaining Mobutu isn’t some sort of mysterious opinion piece!
My god, decades ago there were declassified documents on Belgian and US intervention to back Mobutu and also Moishe Tshombe’s separatist moves in Katanga.
Sure, it may not be considered bad form for a professional journalist to be completely ignorant of historical sources of the subject matter he’s discussing, but, it really should be.
Such idiocies would fail in any undergraduate history, political science, international relations, or African studies research paper.
And this notion that ‘it’s an insult to Africans to suggest that a superpower backing a violent tyrannical force has a real effect’ goes against US rhetoric at the time — at the time that the US backed the crushing of a rebellion in Congo (years after Lumumba’s assassination) in 1964-65 — is WHAT THE USA WAS SAYING AT THE TIME ABOUT A MYTHICAL ‘CHICOM’ (Chinese Communism) INTERVENTION IN CONGO.
This is just stupid. This is just nonsense. It’s crap that people who don’t give a damn about the historical record blather to excuse themselves from being too damn lazy to check and see what is known and what information is available.
I’m sick and tired of well-paid professional journalists complaining that it’s unfair for them to be expected to hold up the minimum standards of data gathering, documentary research, and argument construction which would be required of a sophomore in college.
Disgusting.
I gather that Mr. Perry is Time’s Africa Bureau Chief. That job is impossible to do without being informed about Africa’s colonial past. That involves Africans, to be sure; it also intimately involves the machinations of their past colonial rulers. Belgium, France and the UK come prominently to mind, as does the US after WWII.
That gig would be impossible to do without coming to terms with Africa’s colonial past, even if only as prelude to the present (just as it would be impossible to cover Latin America without understanding the history of America’s colonial involvement there down to the present day).
How Mr. Perry has come to terms with it is now clear. He is engaging in corporate denialism. That’s good for Time, given Glenn Greenwald’s piece this morning, and good for past colonial rulers. The meme that it is racist to argue that anyone but Africans is partly responsible for their current ailments, for example, lets those rulers off the hook as much as it does Time Magazine. Mr. Perry has also now put his views about this criticism on the record (in a manner that abuses himself and his readers). In the rightwing mind (regardless of what sort Mr. Perry has), that’s sufficient to turn questions of fact into questions of opinion, which makes it possible to discard just criticism.
Every writer has biases; good ones tell us what they are. Instead of foaming at his pda about the alleged biases and unprofessionalism of his critics, Mr. Perry ought to examine and reveal his own.
An oldie but goodie: Time magazine on US direct intervention in the Congo to protect the US-aligned goverment from rebellion in 1964:
Surely it’s racist and anti-African to point out the significance of this US intervention.
Sheesh, what a twit.
Hey Alex Perry, here is a piece of investigative work done by a real journalist, not a court stenographer. François-Xavier Verschave, Françafrique: le plus long scandale de la République (you can buy it here: http://amzn.to/9bBgVn).
In this volume, Verschave exhaustively catalogs the French policy of “Françafrique,” a corrupt and frequently murderous French government program to maintain influence and prop up pro-French rulers throughout the former French colonies in West and Central Africa. Were there Africans who participated and benefitted from this system? Certainly. But was Africa “since decolonization” simply run by Africans without Western interference, as you suggested? Certainly not.
If you don’t believe me, you can ask Thomas Sankara. His grave is just outside Ouagadougou, where he was buried in 1987, after his army chief, Blaise Compaoré (still president today, by the way) with the encouragement of the CIA and the French secret services, had him and his lieutenants shot.
Mr. Perry’s lack of insight into the strings that tug on Afrika are very insightful. The CIA doesn’t have to tell him what to write. They make sure that myopic writers get placed into jobs that will benefit the cause. Just look at FOX news.
Journalists yelling at each other?I love it.That means they actually disagree.During the last election the mainstream media refused to even listen, or debate what the alternative(right leaning)press was screaming about.Because they were advocates instead of reporters.So I think this tit for tat is wonderful.To the bloggers…….I love reading debates like this.Argument aside…. it always falls on the same space doesnt it?.The” blame America first” space. I was surprised to see no blame placed on George Bush-. Though the last blogger throwing in the shot at FOX news made me smile..
Ignorant moronic time hack doesnt know basic history shocker!
You can tell perry looks at himself in the mirror and makes kissy faces whilst he heroically vanquishes those strawmen.
Wow, I never heard of Alex Perry before but I was so pleased with his recent “Africa’s Future: How Staging the World Cup has allowed a continent to believe in itself” that I sought him out on the web and then came across this controversy. I am very deeply sad at the vitriol in his responses to FAIR. This to me doesn’t speak well of Time, known for its often infuriatingly conservative level-headedness. I would take that ten times before the Perry vitriol.
The second reason for my disappointment is that I have gone back to read a lot of Perry’s work and this his response does great injustice to what I would describe as an overall accomplished corpus. His committed passion for Africa is indisputable, and he writes most insightfully and eloquently. How come someone with that experience hasn’t gotten over the fact that claiming that USA produced Mobutu, or that CIA overthrew Nkrumah, is a _very_ acceptable and meaningful and often necessary polemical discourse today? It is by no means a denial of African agency or a non-recognition of the tyrannies and idiotic vanities of our leaders. This was what my generation already hashed out and came to terms with in our college days in the early 1980s. Perry may not know it but the “new” idea of giving Africa agency is the mantra of late 1990s Africanist scholarship that sugarcoated its limitation of imagination (and admittedly its frustration with the snailspeed–if any speed at all–of African development; the wars, refugee and other crises, puerile leaders, etc) with the idea of absolutely centering Africa in the historical accounting of its problems and future possibilities. It sounds heartwarmingly liberal, but history is really messier than that. Against what seemed to be the previous over-emphasis on “Euro-American imperialism,” we now have an overemphasis on an ahistorical “African agency.” If “agency” is the meeting point, the junction, of constraints and possibilities, why should things be either-or?
It is not at all a condescension to Africa to say that USA produced Mobutu; it is, in fact, childish and time-wasting today to argue against that. And neither is it a sensible defense of Africa to imply or say that Africa alone produced Mobutu, simply because we want to invest Africa with agency. Africa is in the world, so why would thinking about its problems and possibilities be restricted to the continent only? If some people still think it is the landing of Europe in Africa that introduced Africa to History, we should not because of their inanity go to the other extreme and say that in spite of 500 years of unequal contact history, Africa only is the author of its own history, good and bad. Where would Europe and America be today without African labor? African agency is in these places too, even if the professional historians there ignore that or that history is not so common in popular consciousness. I am still an admirer of Alex Perry and thank him for his many perceptive writeups. He was once arrested and detained in Zimbabwe by Mugabe’s goons; he needn’t have gone there if his goal were simply to do his “work” to get paid. For those of us concerned with Africa, these “small” things are really important.
Having (somewhat) followed Alex Perry’s work in India, it is interesting to see this issue pop up. But it is not surprising at all – as someone mentioned here, his is very often the typical smug, insensitive, “White God” reporting (to borrow Matt Taibbi’s phrase) – a sad (but often true) living caricature of western reporters in developing countries.
Here are some (Indian) responses to his work there:
http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2004/12/myth-about-rich-and-poor.html
http://www.hvk.org/articles/0602/166.html
Back to this story… found this enlightening and hilarious: http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003328.html
Today Alex Perry intentionally misquotes Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza, Rwandan opposotion leader for the UDF-Inkingi party, her response on her facebook page â┚¬Ã…½”pro-Kagame propaganda, and that Ms. Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza was intentionally misquoted in a Hutu revenge story”. She does not believe in such a nonsense.
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